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		<title>By: The More We Talk About Change in Real Estate The More It Seems The Same</title>
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		<dc:creator>The More We Talk About Change in Real Estate The More It Seems The Same</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 19:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brian Block</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Block</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 03:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly enough... while I was off doing other things and then commenting here, you were on my Active Rain post commenting about coming to REBarCamp DC!

Oh, and I did mention myself (I was first alphabetically!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough&#8230; while I was off doing other things and then commenting here, you were on my Active Rain post commenting about coming to REBarCamp DC!</p>
<p>Oh, and I did mention myself (I was first alphabetically!)</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Block</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Block</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 03:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

Well, next week I&#039;m going to my 4th REBarCamp here on my home turf in D.C. (or rather Northern Virginia).  I&#039;ve been to the two in San Francisco and went down to the Lynchburg one earlier this month.

I&#039;ve found the experiences, the sharing, and the learning that goes on at these events exciting and invigorating and unlike what happens at most conferences where you are &quot;spoken at&quot; or &quot;spoken to&quot;

The tools of social media allow people to join the conversation.  My favorite quote from the Twitter Conference I went to this past week was &quot;You no longer have to yell at your television, now you can tweet about it.&quot;  Similarly, at an REBarCamp, the participants are NOT the audience, but rather active contributors to the conversation.

On a personal note, I&#039;m looking forward to seeing you on Tuesday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Well, next week I&#8217;m going to my 4th REBarCamp here on my home turf in D.C. (or rather Northern Virginia).  I&#8217;ve been to the two in San Francisco and went down to the Lynchburg one earlier this month.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found the experiences, the sharing, and the learning that goes on at these events exciting and invigorating and unlike what happens at most conferences where you are &#8220;spoken at&#8221; or &#8220;spoken to&#8221;</p>
<p>The tools of social media allow people to join the conversation.  My favorite quote from the Twitter Conference I went to this past week was &#8220;You no longer have to yell at your television, now you can tweet about it.&#8221;  Similarly, at an REBarCamp, the participants are NOT the audience, but rather active contributors to the conversation.</p>
<p>On a personal note, I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing you on Tuesday.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda Porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhonda Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bill--didn&#039;t I just see you in Vegas? ;)    I really enjoy REBarcamps...I was lucky to have gone to the first one in San Francisco, which I&#039;m afraid has made me one of those &quot;purist&quot;.   This year, I attended both Seattle events, Chicago&#039;s and I was the organizer for the &quot;mini&quot;/half-day REBC in Bellevue.   Since I was the lead organizer in Bellevue, I did everything I could to encourage more &quot;peer to peer&quot; sharing/learning vs. the &quot;planned speakers/tracks&quot; or commercial toned presentations.     

We did not have a sponsored lunch and sponsors were featured on the REBC/bellevue site and could leave bling on a designated table.

It did take some &quot;management&quot; to make this happen.  The last Seattle event had more of a &quot;commercial&quot; tone IMO since they were trying to provide more value to sponsors and provide booths along the border of the main room.   There were also &quot;speakers&quot; there with planned sessions... 

I think each REBC will have it&#039;s own flavor depending on who&#039;s planning and who shows up.  I always encourge participation.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bill&#8211;didn&#8217;t I just see you in Vegas? <img src='http://rereflections.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />     I really enjoy REBarcamps&#8230;I was lucky to have gone to the first one in San Francisco, which I&#8217;m afraid has made me one of those &#8220;purist&#8221;.   This year, I attended both Seattle events, Chicago&#8217;s and I was the organizer for the &#8220;mini&#8221;/half-day REBC in Bellevue.   Since I was the lead organizer in Bellevue, I did everything I could to encourage more &#8220;peer to peer&#8221; sharing/learning vs. the &#8220;planned speakers/tracks&#8221; or commercial toned presentations.     </p>
<p>We did not have a sponsored lunch and sponsors were featured on the REBC/bellevue site and could leave bling on a designated table.</p>
<p>It did take some &#8220;management&#8221; to make this happen.  The last Seattle event had more of a &#8220;commercial&#8221; tone IMO since they were trying to provide more value to sponsors and provide booths along the border of the main room.   There were also &#8220;speakers&#8221; there with planned sessions&#8230; </p>
<p>I think each REBC will have it&#8217;s own flavor depending on who&#8217;s planning and who shows up.  I always encourge participation.  <img src='http://rereflections.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: tony lazzari</title>
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		<dc:creator>tony lazzari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill - Once again your observations are on track, imho. Am I a barcamp junkie, don&#039;t think so even though I have attended 4 this year from San Francisco to  Columbus and am planning on at least 1 more before the year ends. Yes, there is a group of veterans that show up at a lot of these. Yes the vets have a good relationship and are a close (not closed) group. 
I believe it comes from the shared values and experiences they have found in this venue. And they share - they travel at their own expense - and they willingly help newbies like me learn how these tools can be employed in this business of real estate.
I have tried engaging one of the &quot;disser&#039;s) of barcamps - and he won&#039;t engage or discuss. His shared experience was one barcamp.
Me, I find value in the experience. As I participate more, I hope others find value in what I share. And I find that the people that do participate and are involved are people that I want to associate with.
If you haven&#039;t gone yet, go to one - experience it - participate. This is not like watching a baseball game. You are on the roster and playing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill &#8211; Once again your observations are on track, imho. Am I a barcamp junkie, don&#8217;t think so even though I have attended 4 this year from San Francisco to  Columbus and am planning on at least 1 more before the year ends. Yes, there is a group of veterans that show up at a lot of these. Yes the vets have a good relationship and are a close (not closed) group.<br />
I believe it comes from the shared values and experiences they have found in this venue. And they share &#8211; they travel at their own expense &#8211; and they willingly help newbies like me learn how these tools can be employed in this business of real estate.<br />
I have tried engaging one of the &#8220;disser&#8217;s) of barcamps &#8211; and he won&#8217;t engage or discuss. His shared experience was one barcamp.<br />
Me, I find value in the experience. As I participate more, I hope others find value in what I share. And I find that the people that do participate and are involved are people that I want to associate with.<br />
If you haven&#8217;t gone yet, go to one &#8211; experience it &#8211; participate. This is not like watching a baseball game. You are on the roster and playing.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first read about REBC in May, I had the feeling that I wanted to get to one asap. Why? Because I know how these types of gatherings can lose focus... and I didn&#039;t want to miss the true experience. Virginia Beach was my first and you, Bill, really added to the conversation.

At Lynchburg, I had some great conversations. It was a good group with a lot of open discussions.

I&#039;ll be at REBCDC next week and plan on contributing to the conversation again too. Yes, no presentations... just discussions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first read about REBC in May, I had the feeling that I wanted to get to one asap. Why? Because I know how these types of gatherings can lose focus&#8230; and I didn&#8217;t want to miss the true experience. Virginia Beach was my first and you, Bill, really added to the conversation.</p>
<p>At Lynchburg, I had some great conversations. It was a good group with a lot of open discussions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be at REBCDC next week and plan on contributing to the conversation again too. Yes, no presentations&#8230; just discussions.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Kay Landis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Kay Landis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I have attended two PodCamps, this Ohio REBarCamp was my first. As such, I saw a ton of people from my company (high-level folks) and was glad - why? Because there was so much information presented about social media/new media and I felt the presentations helped raise the level of awareness of what social/new media means to the real estate industry for these folks and others.

Part of the great feel of REBarCampOhio was due to the organizers and their dedication and devotion is really appreciated.

I didn&#039;t get a sense of commercialism, and only one of the sessions smacked of stuff I didn&#039;t care for in the attitudes of the presenters (not yours, Bill, your session was fabulous!!).  Point being, not everyone will like every session or every presenter. Overall, the sessions were good, convos at lunch and between sessions were fun and informative. An experience I would like to have again, and will!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I have attended two PodCamps, this Ohio REBarCamp was my first. As such, I saw a ton of people from my company (high-level folks) and was glad &#8211; why? Because there was so much information presented about social media/new media and I felt the presentations helped raise the level of awareness of what social/new media means to the real estate industry for these folks and others.</p>
<p>Part of the great feel of REBarCampOhio was due to the organizers and their dedication and devotion is really appreciated.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t get a sense of commercialism, and only one of the sessions smacked of stuff I didn&#8217;t care for in the attitudes of the presenters (not yours, Bill, your session was fabulous!!).  Point being, not everyone will like every session or every presenter. Overall, the sessions were good, convos at lunch and between sessions were fun and informative. An experience I would like to have again, and will!</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Carroll - Dakno Marketing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby Carroll - Dakno Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admit it, I&#039;m a certifiable REBC junkie! Bill, you nailed it! Having been to a few RE Bar Camps, every one that I have attended (and where possible provided a live stream), has been a different experience. Are topics similar? Sure, but the nature of the RE Bar Camp event is to listen to the needs of the attendees and shape the event according to the needs of the many.

Of the events that I have attended, I can only recall a few occasions where a &quot;vendor&quot; made a pitch. I even abandoned my position &quot;behind the camera&quot; at one event because those who were making their pitch didn&#039;t have a clue it was the wrong place and time to be doing that. Like Bill, you should vote with your two feet and find another session (or better yet, create your own).

Where else can you can you go to learn, share, network, and contribute to a worthy cause (love that aspect) and did I say network with such outstanding people? But don&#039;t take my word for it, get yourself to a real estate bar camp and experience it for yourself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admit it, I&#8217;m a certifiable REBC junkie! Bill, you nailed it! Having been to a few RE Bar Camps, every one that I have attended (and where possible provided a live stream), has been a different experience. Are topics similar? Sure, but the nature of the RE Bar Camp event is to listen to the needs of the attendees and shape the event according to the needs of the many.</p>
<p>Of the events that I have attended, I can only recall a few occasions where a &#8220;vendor&#8221; made a pitch. I even abandoned my position &#8220;behind the camera&#8221; at one event because those who were making their pitch didn&#8217;t have a clue it was the wrong place and time to be doing that. Like Bill, you should vote with your two feet and find another session (or better yet, create your own).</p>
<p>Where else can you can you go to learn, share, network, and contribute to a worthy cause (love that aspect) and did I say network with such outstanding people? But don&#8217;t take my word for it, get yourself to a real estate bar camp and experience it for yourself!</p>
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		<title>By: Ken  Montville - The MD Suburbs of DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken  Montville - The MD Suburbs of DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of the appeal of REBAR camps come from the fact that it is NOT the gurus or the vendors making pitches. It&#039;s other agents who have found something that works for them in real life and they are sharing it... for free.

Having said that, there is a lot to be said for seeing some of the same people and some of the people I know only from Twitter, the blogosphere, in general, or Facebook.  It&#039;s nice to be able to put the flesh and blood person together with the online persona.  Good for networking.  Good for referrals (possibly). Good for finding a mentor/teacher/kindred spirit.

I can see where they may very well lose steam after awhile, though. They require a lot of organization, sponsorship and attendance. REBAR camps won&#039;t be the &quot;shiny new penny&quot; after awhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of the appeal of REBAR camps come from the fact that it is NOT the gurus or the vendors making pitches. It&#8217;s other agents who have found something that works for them in real life and they are sharing it&#8230; for free.</p>
<p>Having said that, there is a lot to be said for seeing some of the same people and some of the people I know only from Twitter, the blogosphere, in general, or Facebook.  It&#8217;s nice to be able to put the flesh and blood person together with the online persona.  Good for networking.  Good for referrals (possibly). Good for finding a mentor/teacher/kindred spirit.</p>
<p>I can see where they may very well lose steam after awhile, though. They require a lot of organization, sponsorship and attendance. REBAR camps won&#8217;t be the &#8220;shiny new penny&#8221; after awhile.</p>
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		<title>By: Nannette Saunders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nannette Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had a little ol&#039; RE BarCamp in Lynchburg earlier this month and only a couple veterans of RE BarCamp showed up and we had mostly local venders.  While I was glad that some of the veterans showed up I like Danielle wasn&#039;t there for the rock stars. We really went out of our way to create an event where EVERYONE was involved and felt a part of.  I have been to RE BarCamps that were more of a family reunion of the same people I read about every day.  Not saying that is good or bad but I think you will get out of it what you put into it like anything else.  RE BarCamp is just an opportunity.  You have to make it happen for yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had a little ol&#8217; RE BarCamp in Lynchburg earlier this month and only a couple veterans of RE BarCamp showed up and we had mostly local venders.  While I was glad that some of the veterans showed up I like Danielle wasn&#8217;t there for the rock stars. We really went out of our way to create an event where EVERYONE was involved and felt a part of.  I have been to RE BarCamps that were more of a family reunion of the same people I read about every day.  Not saying that is good or bad but I think you will get out of it what you put into it like anything else.  RE BarCamp is just an opportunity.  You have to make it happen for yourself.</p>
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